[identity profile] ariss-tenoh.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] prosfinder
I'm curious. Are there any Bodie/Doyle prison fics? Where they meet in prison? Or one of them is in prison and removed by CI5 for a special assignment? I'm looking for something that leans towards AU, hurt/comfort, or where the location of a prison/psyche itself plays a big role in the story.

Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-13 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
A few other Pros prison stories include: Endgame by Tarot (online pseudonym - different name on Proslib) features Bodie in a Mideast prison. It's also a well-known death story.

Fantasies by Fanny Adams has both Bodie & Doyle in prison and fantasizing before possible execution.

Hiding the Truth by Liz Bradford (Unprofessional Conduct 6, 1995) features Doyle recovering from an undercover assignment in prison that went wrong.

Inside Information by Sue S. (Circuit story) has Bodie undercover in prison.

Look Through My Eyes by Jane Carnall and Nicole Craig (A Simple Game zine & recently Proslib) features Cowley badly damaged by his time in a Russian prison. It's Bodie/Cowley.

Traitor's Fate by Meg Lewtan (Circuit story, Historical AU). Inspired by The Scarlet Pimpernel book. Bodie is in French prison.

Also, in addition to stories that have either Bodie or Doyle (or occasionally other Pros characters) in prison in England or the UK, there are a number of stories that mention Bodie's mercenary past in Africa - often having him in prison or a jungle prison camp.

One of the best known may be House of Cards by MCK aka Marian Kelly. It is a zine comprised of two novellas: Ace of Spades and The Joker is Wild. Bodie's mercenary past and time in an African prison camp play a huge role in both stories. Ace of Spades was also published in Discovered on a Rooftop (1985, Spice Press, OOP).

YMMV but I find many of the African mercenary stories problematic - beyond my dislike of extreme H/C, rape, and torture fiction - because they uncritically invoke racist stereotypes and tropes in their handling of Bodie's mercenary past. Or worse, use Bodie's past as an African mercenary to excuse his canon racism.

Even though the episode Klansman was explicitly critical of race relations and ideally, would have spawned many a discussion, Pros fen tend to ignore or gloss over Bodie's canon racism. This pattern can also be seen in regards to Pros stories.

Of course, Pros isn't the only fandom to be hesitant to engage in such discussions - fandoms are, after all, part of our larger societies. And there have been notable exceptions - in both fiction and discussion - where Bodie's racism is examined critically.
Edited Date: 2012-06-13 06:11 pm (UTC)

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodiecuddle.livejournal.com
Do you have a link for the " Inside Information" story. I can`t find it ;)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
OK, here are the links for Inside Information and also another of Sue S. aka The Android's Pros stories, Cause for Concern.

Sue's website recently moved and it took me a bit to find current links.

Sue aka The Android's website, The Dungeon:
http://therealandroidsdungeon.blogspot.com/

Direct link to Inside Information (Pros):
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ULzE4SwtAGcupb9rLGUc-WJT15H44LdEODf9-JOv-zY

INSIDE INFORMATION (3,640 words)
An undercover assignment has meant a month in Wormwood Scrubs for Bodie. When he's released he doesn't seem to relish Doyle's company any more. Something that happened inside must have changed him - but what?


Direct link to Cause For Concern (Pros):
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Xw4Ht2ba49arVKekC-olavLsIF2MrQdKOYsvrqh4eaU

CAUSE FOR CONCERN (22,630 words)
Bodie and Doyle are sharing everything, even their women; they're too close. Cowley decides to intervene - and his plan involves the return of Ann Holly, Doyle's former fiancee.

Edited to fix links since it appears that Prosfinder is not screening posts with outside links.
Edited Date: 2012-06-14 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodiecuddle.livejournal.com
YOU ARE A STAR!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !!! hugs hugs I got it YEAHHHHHH

Date: 2012-06-14 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
You're welcome. And don't forget to send a few words to Sue if you enjoy the story. I know she'd appreciate it.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodiecuddle.livejournal.com
thanks for the help.. ok its one of the zines,,, :( I was only interested. It sounded good. I would love to read it, but.. OK a no go for me... *cry*

And for racim and so on.. I think the makers of the pros didn`t thought about the consequences. Klansmen was banned!! So That made them think.!!! In " Highjack" Bodie must stand the thing " put him in a combat and ratatatata" * using the hands like a MG* from a black skined one. Its really a shame and I don`t want to hear such things...I blame every racist....!!!! Sorry for my articulation.. I`m not a native. I`m German and I know how it feels to be blamed.for things I don`t understand.. although it were meanwhile the grannys who puts that stamp on us.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
No, no, don't cry!

Inside Information is online but it's moved so I'll back shortly with a current link. It is also on the Proslib CD if you have that. And if you don't have the Prolib CD - order it immediately!

The Proslib CD is the best Pros resource bar none (stories, art, vids, resources, and more). There are literally more than a thousand stories on the CD (more added every month), and some of them will never be online due to author preferences. You can get it for essentially cost, and Frances will mail it internationally.

Frances just had a hip replacement so there might be some delay in mailing. I'm not sure, so check and see. She could already be up and about.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Well, even if you're not hunting zines, most of the stories I listed are available either on the Proslib CD or online. Many Circuit stories are on the Proslib CD already and more are added each month.

Endgame by Tarot - available online at both Hatstand Archive & the Circuit Archive. Also on the Proslib CD.

Fantasies by Fanny Adams - available online at both Hatstand Archive & the Circuit Archive. Also on the Proslib CD.

Inside Information by Sue S. - available online at author's website. Website & more story links in comment above.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ULzE4SwtAGcupb9rLGUc-WJT15H44LdEODf9-JOv-zY

Look Through My Eyes by Jane Carnall and Nicole Craig - available on the Proslib CD & I think - NOT sure - it's online at Jane's website.

Traitor's Fate by Meg Lewtan - available on the Proslib CD. Meg doesn't want her stories online - at least for now - so you won't find it at any of the archives.

As to racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of oppression - yes, times were different thirty years ago but oppression is alive and thriving today. Sometimes it may be more subtle, but there are still countless examples of blatant discrimination today. It's not that oppression has disappeared, rather that many folks would still prefer to ignore it - if they have that privilege.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-15 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
Even though the episode Klansman was explicitly critical of race relations and ideally, would have spawned many a discussion, Pros fen tend to ignore or gloss over Bodie's canon racism. This pattern can also be seen in regards to Pros stories.

For me, I rarely want to read a story that delves into the psychological and psychological mores of the era or even of today. It's not entertaining. It's more of a documentary or somtimes unfortunately, preaching. I want to be entertained when I read. RL has enough bad things in it without spending even more time worrying when I'm reading. That's just me. I want hot men and sex and h/c and even angst if it's not too over the top. I'd be skipping or deleting these sorts of stories. But I readily admit I'm in fandom for fun not to learn lessons.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-15 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Yep, I think it's safe to say that we are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to how we approach fan fiction and how we define entertainment.

I strongly suspect that even when we both agree that we like the same story, it is for different reasons. *g*

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-15 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
That's perfectly all right. We both love the lads. Common interests there. :)

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