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I'm curious. Are there any Bodie/Doyle prison fics? Where they meet in prison? Or one of them is in prison and removed by CI5 for a special assignment? I'm looking for something that leans towards AU, hurt/comfort, or where the location of a prison/psyche itself plays a big role in the story.

Pros Prison Stories - Waiting to Fall

Date: 2012-06-13 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
The classic Pros H/C recovery from unjust prison story is Waiting to Fall by Rob. It can be found on the Proslib CD & online at The Circuit Archive. It's also the longest Pros novel, approximately 2 MB, so if it is to your taste, you'll be able to indulge for some time.

Keep in mind that the novel is leisurely paced; there's a good reason why it's also affectionately known as "Waiting to Fuck". *g*

ETA: Forgot to mention that Doyle is one that was in prison.
Edited Date: 2012-06-13 05:04 pm (UTC)

Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-13 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
A few other Pros prison stories include: Endgame by Tarot (online pseudonym - different name on Proslib) features Bodie in a Mideast prison. It's also a well-known death story.

Fantasies by Fanny Adams has both Bodie & Doyle in prison and fantasizing before possible execution.

Hiding the Truth by Liz Bradford (Unprofessional Conduct 6, 1995) features Doyle recovering from an undercover assignment in prison that went wrong.

Inside Information by Sue S. (Circuit story) has Bodie undercover in prison.

Look Through My Eyes by Jane Carnall and Nicole Craig (A Simple Game zine & recently Proslib) features Cowley badly damaged by his time in a Russian prison. It's Bodie/Cowley.

Traitor's Fate by Meg Lewtan (Circuit story, Historical AU). Inspired by The Scarlet Pimpernel book. Bodie is in French prison.

Also, in addition to stories that have either Bodie or Doyle (or occasionally other Pros characters) in prison in England or the UK, there are a number of stories that mention Bodie's mercenary past in Africa - often having him in prison or a jungle prison camp.

One of the best known may be House of Cards by MCK aka Marian Kelly. It is a zine comprised of two novellas: Ace of Spades and The Joker is Wild. Bodie's mercenary past and time in an African prison camp play a huge role in both stories. Ace of Spades was also published in Discovered on a Rooftop (1985, Spice Press, OOP).

YMMV but I find many of the African mercenary stories problematic - beyond my dislike of extreme H/C, rape, and torture fiction - because they uncritically invoke racist stereotypes and tropes in their handling of Bodie's mercenary past. Or worse, use Bodie's past as an African mercenary to excuse his canon racism.

Even though the episode Klansman was explicitly critical of race relations and ideally, would have spawned many a discussion, Pros fen tend to ignore or gloss over Bodie's canon racism. This pattern can also be seen in regards to Pros stories.

Of course, Pros isn't the only fandom to be hesitant to engage in such discussions - fandoms are, after all, part of our larger societies. And there have been notable exceptions - in both fiction and discussion - where Bodie's racism is examined critically.
Edited Date: 2012-06-13 06:11 pm (UTC)

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodiecuddle.livejournal.com
Do you have a link for the " Inside Information" story. I can`t find it ;)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
OK, here are the links for Inside Information and also another of Sue S. aka The Android's Pros stories, Cause for Concern.

Sue's website recently moved and it took me a bit to find current links.

Sue aka The Android's website, The Dungeon:
http://therealandroidsdungeon.blogspot.com/

Direct link to Inside Information (Pros):
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ULzE4SwtAGcupb9rLGUc-WJT15H44LdEODf9-JOv-zY

INSIDE INFORMATION (3,640 words)
An undercover assignment has meant a month in Wormwood Scrubs for Bodie. When he's released he doesn't seem to relish Doyle's company any more. Something that happened inside must have changed him - but what?


Direct link to Cause For Concern (Pros):
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1Xw4Ht2ba49arVKekC-olavLsIF2MrQdKOYsvrqh4eaU

CAUSE FOR CONCERN (22,630 words)
Bodie and Doyle are sharing everything, even their women; they're too close. Cowley decides to intervene - and his plan involves the return of Ann Holly, Doyle's former fiancee.

Edited to fix links since it appears that Prosfinder is not screening posts with outside links.
Edited Date: 2012-06-14 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodiecuddle.livejournal.com
YOU ARE A STAR!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !!! hugs hugs I got it YEAHHHHHH

Date: 2012-06-14 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
You're welcome. And don't forget to send a few words to Sue if you enjoy the story. I know she'd appreciate it.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bodiecuddle.livejournal.com
thanks for the help.. ok its one of the zines,,, :( I was only interested. It sounded good. I would love to read it, but.. OK a no go for me... *cry*

And for racim and so on.. I think the makers of the pros didn`t thought about the consequences. Klansmen was banned!! So That made them think.!!! In " Highjack" Bodie must stand the thing " put him in a combat and ratatatata" * using the hands like a MG* from a black skined one. Its really a shame and I don`t want to hear such things...I blame every racist....!!!! Sorry for my articulation.. I`m not a native. I`m German and I know how it feels to be blamed.for things I don`t understand.. although it were meanwhile the grannys who puts that stamp on us.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
No, no, don't cry!

Inside Information is online but it's moved so I'll back shortly with a current link. It is also on the Proslib CD if you have that. And if you don't have the Prolib CD - order it immediately!

The Proslib CD is the best Pros resource bar none (stories, art, vids, resources, and more). There are literally more than a thousand stories on the CD (more added every month), and some of them will never be online due to author preferences. You can get it for essentially cost, and Frances will mail it internationally.

Frances just had a hip replacement so there might be some delay in mailing. I'm not sure, so check and see. She could already be up and about.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-14 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Well, even if you're not hunting zines, most of the stories I listed are available either on the Proslib CD or online. Many Circuit stories are on the Proslib CD already and more are added each month.

Endgame by Tarot - available online at both Hatstand Archive & the Circuit Archive. Also on the Proslib CD.

Fantasies by Fanny Adams - available online at both Hatstand Archive & the Circuit Archive. Also on the Proslib CD.

Inside Information by Sue S. - available online at author's website. Website & more story links in comment above.
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1ULzE4SwtAGcupb9rLGUc-WJT15H44LdEODf9-JOv-zY

Look Through My Eyes by Jane Carnall and Nicole Craig - available on the Proslib CD & I think - NOT sure - it's online at Jane's website.

Traitor's Fate by Meg Lewtan - available on the Proslib CD. Meg doesn't want her stories online - at least for now - so you won't find it at any of the archives.

As to racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of oppression - yes, times were different thirty years ago but oppression is alive and thriving today. Sometimes it may be more subtle, but there are still countless examples of blatant discrimination today. It's not that oppression has disappeared, rather that many folks would still prefer to ignore it - if they have that privilege.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-15 10:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
Even though the episode Klansman was explicitly critical of race relations and ideally, would have spawned many a discussion, Pros fen tend to ignore or gloss over Bodie's canon racism. This pattern can also be seen in regards to Pros stories.

For me, I rarely want to read a story that delves into the psychological and psychological mores of the era or even of today. It's not entertaining. It's more of a documentary or somtimes unfortunately, preaching. I want to be entertained when I read. RL has enough bad things in it without spending even more time worrying when I'm reading. That's just me. I want hot men and sex and h/c and even angst if it's not too over the top. I'd be skipping or deleting these sorts of stories. But I readily admit I'm in fandom for fun not to learn lessons.

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-15 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Yep, I think it's safe to say that we are at opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to how we approach fan fiction and how we define entertainment.

I strongly suspect that even when we both agree that we like the same story, it is for different reasons. *g*

Re: Pros Prison Stories

Date: 2012-06-15 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
That's perfectly all right. We both love the lads. Common interests there. :)

Date: 2012-06-13 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if these fit your request but they do deal with imprisonment. If you haven't read this story, you might want to read ABOUT it before you read it if you are particularly sensitive about warnings.

There is The Pillory by Kitty Fisher, http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/5/thepillory.html

Or here with more warnings: http://hatstand.slashcity.net/kitty/pillory.html

Be aware that The Pillory is a controversial story. Some info is here: http://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Pillory (Many spoilers on this page if that is something you care about.)

And one of the sequels, Any Other World by Andromeda. http://community.livejournal.com/ci5_boxoftricks/15186.html

I'm adding a story I really love: Rediscovered in a Graveyward by HG: http://archiveofourown.org/works/317527

Edited Date: 2012-06-13 06:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-17 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlightmead.livejournal.com
Any Other World - that sequel - is really very very good. I actually liked the Pillory a lot, and was happy with it as a stand-alone. But when I read Any Other World, I was very glad Andromeda had written it, because it's an excellent story in its own right.

It Takes a Village to Make a Story List

Date: 2012-06-15 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Thanks for your contributions - as I said to [livejournal.com profile] moonlightmead you caught several that I missed, including a favorite of mine, Rediscovered in a Graveyard by HG.

Also, thanks for listing appropriate warning links for The Pillory. It's a story that can really trigger an unwarned reader.

Re: It Takes a Village to Make a Story List

Date: 2012-06-15 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
You're welcome. As for The Pillory, I read it unwarned and lived so... :) But I'm one of those rare folks who thinks if you're an adult, it's up to you to make sure you don't wade into things you might not like. I'm not anti warning but I'm not for them either. *shrug* If there is available information on one of the sites, I'll toss it out.

Of the hundreds of zines I own, very few have any warnings. Trust me, I've read some awful things in my years as a fannish girl and there is a longer list of things I don't enjoy than there is of those that I do. Now there's an entire new discussion!

Cheers.

Date: 2012-06-13 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlightmead.livejournal.com
Yay for Taverymate. I thought of a couple, and thought of "What's that one where Bodie's in a Middle Eastern prison and... (plot happens)?" and wandered off to look for it and got totally sidetracked. It was, of course, Tarot's "Endgame".

I didn't think of "Waiting to Fall" (which ticks all your requirements above, most definitely), but I did think of HG's Rediscovered in a Graveyard, on the online circuit archive (http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/20/rediscoveredin.html) and AO3: Rediscovered in a Graveyard (http://archiveofourown.org/works/317527/chapters/510642) - all 150,000 words.

A crossover with Man from UNCLE: Minerva's Discovered In A Congo Prison Affair (http://jj-minerva.livejournal.com/10618.html) (also on Proslib CD, also on AO3?)

There are inevitably yet others on the paper circuit, but they are very unlikely to show up online: I'm sure I saw one where Doyle is a political prisoner in a prison camp in (presumably) Central America, for example.

On LJ, there's two in an as yet unresolved series by merentha: Inmates (http://teaandswissroll.livejournal.com/494275.html) and Inmates II (http://teaandswissroll.livejournal.com/500865.html).

There's more, I'm sure of it. Shall think.

It Takes a Village to Make a Story List

Date: 2012-06-15 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taverymate.livejournal.com
Yay for [livejournal.com profile] moonlightmead and [livejournal.com profile] sc_fossil!

Thanks for your contributions - you caught several that I missed. Though I can't believe I didn't list Rediscovered in a Graveyard by HG. I love all her work and that is a firm favorite.

And while there are a number of Circuit stories that don't look likely to end up online, don't lose hope. There are strong ongoing efforts to get Circuit stories onto the Proslib CD, and sometimes - not always, but sometimes - that leads authors to OK the posting of the stories online.

Having the hard work of transcribing the often poor type quality Circuit stories into digital format by retyping or scanning already done for Proslib really simplifies the process of getting a story online. And sometimes the work involved in getting a digital copy is what has kept the story offline, not necessarily fear or exposure to a wider audience or privacy concerns.
Edited Date: 2012-06-15 07:50 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-15 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlightmead.livejournal.com
Since the makings of a story list seem to be coming together here, I'll add one more, even though the questioner said she didn't have access to zines: the novella which makes up half of Continental B&D, Fraternité, by Jasper, is - with the exception of the framing device (Bodie is knocked out, and dreams...) - a French Revolution AU. Naturally, there's a prison, and that's where they meet.

Bodie's a soldier, imprisoned for links with the aristos, Doyle is an artist now working in the prison as a warder. The whole of the first half of the story's set in the prison.

Ooh. Must go and add it to angelci5's list of AU occupations (http://ci5hq.livejournal.com/185696.html)!

(edited to fix link, grr)
(and then again to include the author. argh.)
Edited Date: 2012-06-15 11:18 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-06-16 10:52 am (UTC)
ext_112784: (both smiling)
From: [identity profile] angel-ci5.livejournal.com
Another story featuring prison is PR Zed's Light of Day (http://archiveofourown.org/works/181948), where Bodie and Doyle have to go undercover in a prison. :-)

Date: 2012-06-18 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inlovewithboth.livejournal.com
would you like one of mine? It's only little. I was using it as an excercise to write from one POV at a tiime. It's called Separation Anxiety. http://archiveofourown.org/works/266116

Date: 2012-07-05 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlightmead.livejournal.com
Oh, and another, in case anyone ever makes a proper list of them: The Two Trees (http://www.morgandawn.com/two_trees.htm), by Morgan Dawn (also the CA (http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/6/thetwo.html) and probably elsewhere - grim, but fits every criterion: AU-ish (King Billy is dead after Wild Justice), the lads are separately in prison, hurt/comfort (90% hurt, it must be said, though), and the psychological effects are definitely a major element. Even when Doyle is out, he's still in a prison of a sort.
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